Anonymous asked: What is your take on the Ukraine and Russian conflict?
Even if they win they lose…
The arable and non-irradiated farmland in the west will go to the better capitalised German agroindustry like happened in Poland.
The operational and productive factories in the east will be shut down once economic relations with Russia ceases.
The peasants will be crushed by the debt servicing costs and cuts imposed by the West’s banksters and they don’t even get to leave the Ukraine and head to France and England for better lives. The European offer is a trade deal only.
They are fucked.
The U.S see’s the valuein Crimiea but Europe is divided and many Americans can not stomach dying for something so far away. Not after Afghanistan. Not After Iraq. Which isn’t to say that Dying for something is hard. It’s rather easy, as all it takes is the conviction in belief. It is much harder to live for something.
Europe is divided because only Germany can afford to say No
Every other member of the European Union either took money from Russia or is bankrupt. I mean even England has for the last decade washed dirty Russian money. which isn’t to say dirty money is immoral. After all it is at the heart of human greed and if human greed rewards individuals through such illicit means as drugs dealing, slavery…murder then why did England allow Russian Oligarchs to by so much real estate in London and why did they allow them to invest in their financial sector?
The thing is the only thing that truly matters to people is money. Which isn’t to say that what ought to matter is money but rather that our social construct rewards those who have been rewarded or will reward us with some financial benefit.
What is in the best interest of Ukraine is basically let it define its political future without any further interference from Russia and from Europe or to a lesser extent the U.S
Who through the contentious stewardship of Obama has stayed out of the internal fight between Pro Russia and Pro Ukraine factions. But that isn’t enough. People should be told how much Russia has to lose in their desperate endeavor. Their inability to sway its neighbors politicians is primarily due to the internal disputes within a country that is merely 20 years old and has major ideological rifts between the old population and young population who is desperate for work. It’s quite tragic when you are able to see things for what they are. Their ineptness in self governance stems from vindictive and resentful ideas regarding the direction the country must take. One side is nostalgic for a time where Ukraine was a hot bed of manufacturing prowess, that extended its prowess through Crimea and its Naval base into the black sea and the other is the reality. Which some people reject. But i understand why they reject it. It is hard to admit that the Status quo is no longer what it has always been. Even Moscow fears their own revolution and it is because jobs come from Europe’s demand for things. whatever those things are Ukraine could make them and so could Russians. However trade deals with the west dramatically changes the status quo. It allows passage into a permissive world that enriches the lives of people to a comfortable standing. It may not make them rich however it provides a paycheck that lets them drink on the weekend and maybe just maybe buy a plot of land and lease a car for 5 years. It lets them project whatever they were taught was normal.
What Russia is protecting is its Status quo. Which is an oligarchy that perpetuates its brutal rule through connections with the seedy international underworld, nepotism and blatant corruptions. Russia may not think this is ideal, however it is how things have always been done. Ukraine is no different. Europe and their bureaucracy would unravel that. Threatening the established norms within both cultures.
In the word of a jewish zionist that I acquaint with, “they could both fuck themselves, they’ve been anti-semites for as long as I can remember.”
Which is to say that the status quo has also done a great job marginalizing small but very well organized factions. Russia has shown they are willing to virtually endorse the ostracization of minority groups however it is an endemic part of traditional baltic culture. If there is anyone to blame it is always the minority. For the hardships, for why you can’t get laid, for why there is no chance for a job.
The best thing anyone can hope for is that when Obama is no longer president Hillary Clinton demonstrates an interest which says to Russia
"No! do not invade your neighbor, let them settle their squabble. We promise to stay out of it"
and to themselves say to Europe “Do not endorse Ukraine to enter NATO but encourage them to become a neutral state.”
Which is really how Scandinavia has developed their European relationship with Russia. They do not show an interest in joining NATO but still define their identity. Finland comes to mind. They have a relationship with both Russia and Europe. They have their military and most importantly within their foundation of self-governance they do not have bad blood between fascists and socialist. Ukraine does. It’s a young country with a strong tie to the Soviet Union and was an integral part of it. Without it they are merely a young country that is 24 billion dollars in debt and both major factions have done nothing more than antagonize one another by taking punitive action against one another.
But I digress. They’re fucked and nobody actually wants to waste their time when Russia has done the equivalent of padding the wallets of those who act as the police. In the west (Except Germany who is completely solvent but still not innocent) when it comes to money, your principals and values change the money that you’re getting cushions the blow of a recession. Whatever that really is.